I don't like Trisquel name, and logo
I don't like Trisquel's name, nor its logo, I don't think they have any relation with what Trisquel is or wants to be or become. It's an irrelevant name when talking about free software, it doesn't even combine words that mean something relevant to the free software movement.
The name is difficult to pronounce, the name does not resonate with its users, the name trisquel does not suggest anything pleasant or desirable for today's or tomorrow's users of Trisquel.
The name trisquel does not stand out in anything meaningful among the other 100% free distros.
I open the debate.
I like the name Trisquel and the logo :-)
I do too. Trisquel has its roots in Galicia, Spain where our fearless leader Rubén came from. The Trisquel name and logo are a nod to Galicia's Celtic roots. Denying Rubén that bit of cultural pride feels unfair.
Trisquel is a nod to the origins of its maintainer. Strictly based on the name you agree with me. The name Trisquel has no relation to the free software movement, except what its maintainer did. That seems to me a motive, but not a salient feature for a project name that should be broader than the origin of one of its maintainers.
What do you think Trisquel should be called instead? Here's an idea: TotallyRespectingSoftwareFreedom GNU/Linux. Rolls right off the tongue, right? Many free software projects have names where the name itself has no direct connection to the free software movement. Do you believe they should all be renamed for consistency? If not, why single out Trisquel?
So do I
Suggestions?
Used to be called Trisquel LiGNUx. Still a lot of references to Trisquel LiGNUx on various old websites online. Would calling it LiGNUx again make you happy?
I am a translator!
In my main language, Trisquel is not difficult to pronounce. Would Triskel be pronounced differently? In my main language, it is pronounced exactly the same. When people whose main language is English pronounce Ubuntu, I may have no clue what they are speaking about because it is so different.
Can you come up any name that would "resonate with its users" or "suggest anything pleasant or desirable for today's or tomorrow's users"? To me, names are just names, they get known for what they do and this is what makes them suggest something pleasant. Like GNU is nice because of the GNU project, but out of that context it does not really suggest anything besides some particular animal that isn't less or more attractive than many other.
To me, one thing that may be good to suggest something pleasant or attractive could be to make some background images as screen saver that hint to things about Trisquel or free software.
I have seen worse names for a distro. Trisquel? Meh, don't care much.
Besides, if you want to hate on a distro, its name and logo are very rarely good reasons.
Unless its one of those odd distros with a provocative name or logo, then no.
I saw one that has this white supremacy theme once.
Like what the hell...
That is a good reason to hate a distro based on logo and name.
This? No.
I am very disappointed how many fellow distro users think that my message is a “hate on a distro”, it amazes me how English users use the word “hate lightly”.
My message was very clear and precise and yet there are individuals who either have reading comprehension problems or simply have very thin skin. Because what I said, was simply “I don't like Trisquel name and logo" nothing related neither to the technical nor to the ethical values of the distribution.
Remember readers, I am as much a trisquel user as any of you and I also reject non-free software.
> Because what I said, was simply “I don't like Trisquel name and logo" nothing related neither to the technical nor to the ethical values of the distribution.
Indeed, and I see you have good intentions. I'm not blaming you, it seems people will come to the conclusion that disliking an innocent Celtic name simply due to viewing it as irrelevant inevitably means also hating and wishing annihilation upon everything the GNU/Linux distro under that name stands for. People are generally angry, which wouldn't be so bad if the anger was fueled towards positive change, but, with contempt for ethics and altruism, instead of using anger to condemn and hate injustice instead people will mostly just hate on things for petty reasons rather than ethics, and even when people pretend to be ethical it's mostly just a pretext (people often try to justify their hate of the proprietary distro so-called (and errouneously) Ubuntu[1] through ethical concerns about proprietary software (valid concerns) yet most of these people will happily use (be used by) other proprietary-software-endorsing distros, showing that the true concern is not ethics but simply the distro itself) unlike the stereotype that being careless about ethics and surrendering to the ruthless world will somehow bring "peace of mind", therefore with this comes the mindset that simply disliking a name MUST mean complete disregard for any other ideals such as ethics
I do find that the name "Trisquel GNU/Linux" might indeed not be clear enough in some cases, so it could be better to e.g. use "Trisquel GNU/Linux-libre", or even more strongly "GNU/Linux-libre Trisquel" to show that ethics such as software freedom always come first and that the identity ("Trisquel") simply follows from this, this could also help avoid harmful favoritism and hostility between the different FSDG-compliant distros by making it clear that the main goal is ethics and so having multiple FSDG-compliant distros and systems is welcome and even desirable.
Indeed, the "Trisquel" symbol does make references to freedom and also promotes it by valuing cultural diversity and a healthy view of the world, though this would still be unclear to people not aware of this culture, hence the term "GNU/Linux-libre" being prioritized in the paragraph given above. Some nice interpretations of the trisquel symbol I've found:
> this sacred and magical symbol that for them represented learning, and the past, the present and the future. It also represents the balance between body, mind and spirit, the beginning and the end, evolution and growth, perpetual learning and eternal evolution.
> Movement and Evolution: The rotating shape of the triskelion represents the constant flow of life and evolution. It reflects the Celtic belief in the interconnectedness of all things and the cyclical nature of time. For the Celts, the triskelion symbolized the ability to adapt and grow as one embarks on life's journey.
> Another meaning attributed to the trisquel is that of protection and good luck. It was believed that this symbol had the power to ward off evil and attract positive energies.
[1]. I'd rather call it something more contemptful such as Ubunut because "ubuntu" is an African word meaning "humanity towards others", which is something that the distro itself simply does not follow with its disregard for ethics, just like all other proprietary-software-promoting distros
I never said you wanted to destroy trisquel and its image. like the poster responding to you suggested I might be. That would be mega extreme.
I guess hate is a strong word, but I wasn't going to that far extent with it even so idk.